How eBay trashed its brand for the sake of profits

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Angus Kidman12 June 2008, 7:17 PM

The ACCC's rejection of eBay's compulsory PayPal plans is good news for consumers, but eBay's naked grab for cash has done irrepairable damage to the entire online auction market.


As APC reported earlier today, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has decreed in a draft ruling that eBay's plans to make PayPal the only accepted payment scheme in Australia for everything except for personal pickup transactions would be a violation of competition law. eBay's argument that making PayPal the sole option would reduce fraud was given short shrift by the commission, which argued that consumers were in a better position to judge risk on individual transactions than eBay's management. While eBay can appeal the decision, with only five days until it planned to kick the plan off on June 17, its options appear somewhat limited.

eBay's scheme, first announced back in April, has always been dependent on ACCC approval, although that wasn't always apparent in its aggressive marketing of the plan. And it is that aggression which is likely to be remembered by its most loyal sellers long after the current brouhaha over its now-failed attempt dies down.

When I attended the first public meeting to promote the scheme in Melbourne last month, the thing that astonished me wasn't eBay's ridiculous description of people who rejected compulsory PayPal as akin to drug dealers. Nor was it the company's inability to acknowledge the truck-sized holes in its own security efforts. It was the fact that eBay was so willing to ignore input from loyal sellers who had invested years of effort into selling on the platform, and who knew from direct customer feedback that many people simply weren't interested in registering for PayPal, no matter how much noise was made on the topic.

eBay simply repeated its mantra that its own figures showed that PayPal was safer, no matter what individual sellers may have experienced. It's worth noting that this argument appears to have singularly failed to impress the ACCC, suggesting that the pages of data which eBay had excluded from public display in its submissions were far from convincing. Secrecy notwithstanding, its arrogance pissed people off royally, and I'm not surprised. If I was a regular eBay seller, I'd have wanted to hit somebody, fairly hard.

Almost as disturbing was eBay's unwillingness to acknowledge that if the plan went ahead, it stood to make far more money from individual transactions than is currently the case. The way eBay officials told it, this shift was a public service and money had nothing to do with it. It seems no-one believed the spin, including the ACCC.

That's good news for the many small sellers who didn't want to force their customers to use a single payment method. But it's bad news for eBay shareholders, and not just because they've lost out on a potential effort-free revenue stream from forcing people to use an eBay-owned payment method.

It's bad news because it provides a permanent and irrevocable confirmation that eBay really doesn't give a damn about any of its sellers. Long-term eBay users have long suspected this to be the case, but the PayPal push provided an absolute bucketload of evidence to demonstrate that in the word of eBay, the company comes first, second, and third. Buyers rate a passing mention, and sellers are just a conduit for cash.

That doesn't mean that sellers are going to race off to use alternatives such as the Trading Post, if only because eBay still has the bulk of the eyeballs in this market. But it has delivered a solid kick in the goolies to the concept that eBay sellers will remain loyal to the platform. Given eBay's behaviour, why on earth would they bother?


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Dan Warne (Administrator):

Certainly was an ambit claim on their part...

PfftGreedbay (New user):

Angus, Brilliant reporting!!! Thank you on behalf of all current and EX Greedbay sellers.

Now, could you please reveal what the moronic so and so's have done to the feedback system which is seeing honest sellers being suspended at the drop of a hat through, oft times, no fault of their own.

Go to the Round Table chatboard on ebay.com.au to read about the f/back system which has driven sellers away in droves and to see the celebrations re Greedbay & Paypus' karma confronting them squarley in the face today.

thanatos (New user):

Ebay has had it's day I say Go away eBay. I'm of to join www.bidmate.com.au => at least they are friendly there

thanatos (New user):

It is possible that eBay will ignore the direction of the ACCC and wait for someone to challenge them in court, or it's possible they will delay the process by appealing, hoping that we all fall in line by the time they need to comply. Remember, I think, the ACCC must give 30 days’ notice to eBay to cease and desist.


gfh462 (New user):

Well written story because it is so true. They have now shown their true colours to their sellers and I for one will never forgive them. I have started selling at www.oztion.com.au as have 35,000 others since they made their greedy announcement and will never go back regardless of the ACCC decision.

Sick of eBay (User):

Feebay are not to be trusted, it they dont get this through all seller's will pay another way, it wont be over.bang4bucks apparently hit 10,000 members in 4 weeks running , now that is a big number and all because ebay have been shafting people.

gfh462 (New user):

Great article and so true. I will not be going back egardless of the ACCC decision as they have now shown their true colours in their attitude toward sellers (The ones that keep them afloat). I now sell on Oztion 300,000 all Australian memebrs with over 700,000 items. Why would I ever go back?

mbbarnes (New user):

Great story ANGUS.
Finally someone has the guts to say what most of us dare not say on ebays own discussion boards.
Now that this policy seems to have been consigned to the scrap heap, its time to celebrate.
Regardless of what the final outcome is I wont be going back to ebay.
They have treated me like garbage lately and i will NEVER forgive them.

Clapton*is*God (New user):

Paypal ONLY, that's not the half of it. With ebay's NEW changes, sellers are NO longer able to leave neutral or negative feedback, EVEN if the buyer doesn't pay. So, someone can bid on your item, ignore your emails, not pay and then leave you a negative feedback, for no reason. We have no way of warning others of these kind of buyers, since our rights have been taken away. They can also buy your item, pay and then say it was damaged and 99.9% of the time, ebay sides with the buyer and gives them a refund. So, the buyer gets to keep the item, for FREE, plus they get to give the seller a negative, on top of ripping them off.

Another idiotic change...ANY previous "neutral" feedback which was left with the intention of NOT harming the sellers ratings, have now retroactively, been turne